Doubt the Doubts: How to Take the Leap and Follow Your Dreams - with Paul Blais
What is the most important thing to you in your life? Are you doing what you always dreamed of? Since high school, Paul Blais wanted to be a writer and speaker, but he had got caught up in his successful electrical business. When a major health problem arouse, Paul realized what was really important to him-his family, friends and a fulfilling career. So he took the jump and started his own podcast called Doub the Doubts and set about re-evaluating his life.
In This Interview You’ll Learn...
- 01:58 How Paul started out in his electrical business
- 03:04 About Paul’s dream to have a career speaking and writing
- 06:00 Why and how Paul planned to get out of the electrical business
- 08:07 The devastating news that changed Paul’s perspective on his life, career and family
- 13:58 How Paul changed his course of life by building a new entrepreneurial dream
- 16:24 TODAY is the day
- 19:00 How can I bring value to someone’s life?
- 29:07 Paul’s rubber and crystal ball theory
- 32:18 Finding out what rocks your world and pursuing this as a business idea
Andy: Welcome everyone to another episode of Starting
from Nothing, the Foundation podcast. Today we have Paul Blais
with us on the show.
Paul is the founder of Doubt the Doubts, a daily podcast that
interviews some of the most interesting entrepreneurs around. Paul
started the show earlier this year after a routine visit to the doctor
provided a wakeup call that forced him to drop everything and focus
on bringing his dreams to life. I invited him on the show today to
share his new found perspective on life because I know the story
will inspire you to take action in your own life. Paul, how’s it going
Paul: It’s going pretty good. Thanks for having me on my
show. One of the things in the little bio there is that I have the most
interesting entrepreneurs on my show. I have to say yes that’s true
because you were on my show.
Andy: Thanks man. Yeah, that’s how we ended up meeting
through the Foundation launch we got plugged in with Paul and one
of the interviews we did with him was a very real, very refreshing,
very open interview. And so we wanted to bring him on the show
and let you get to know him a little bit because we thought his
perspective is very fresh and unique.
So Paul, let’s get started. Where did your entrepreneurial path start
Paul: Good night. It’s kind of always been a bit in my
bones. Typically it’s been more of a commodity type entrepreneurial
journey. Another words I would sell a product or I’d sell a service.
I’ve had a number of businesses starting back from when I was a
teenager in high school, I’m in college I used to in San Diego have
Christmas tree lots and I would do a pumpkin lot or I’d paint
windows, I have a window cleaning business.
And then about ten years ago I was doing a double launch of two
different deals, one was a non-profit and the other was a for-profit
business both simultaneously thinking that my for-profit would
support my non-profit. Instead it ended up being at the for-profit just
completely consume my life which is electrical contracting business
and I’ve been doing that for the last … since like 2002 I think.
Yeah, 2002. Yeah. Yeah, 2002.
Anyhow, did that for the last ten years and did pretty well. We had
lots and lots of employees and lots and lots of costumers and did
pretty well with it. And then this last year … I always had in the
back of my head, Andy, is that I always thought I would be doing
speaking and writing as a career. That was my dream and my goal.
Ever since I was a teenager which mean … this is a long time to be
curing a fantasy …
Andy: Do you remember when it started?
Paul: Yeah. It started when I was 15. I remember writing a
paper and … the teacher said something to me said, “Well, that was
a really good paper,” and she just complemented me on it and I
thought, well, I like that. I like that feedback from her. Then another
time there was an event where I got to speak for to … to a rally that
was from our city where we grew up [inaudible 00:03:44]
California. There was a couple of hundred students there, they’re
my peers and I got to speak there and … it went over so well there’s
got a lot of great feedback from people.
So, it was that … the precious little 15 to 17 years old right there
where I started to get the dream of saying that’s what I wanted to do.
And then it just kind of got … put on the side. I remember putting in
my journal at the time, writing my goals out and saying what I
wanted to be in ten years and one of them was being a speaker. The
other one was being a writer. There’s about five or six more that
were on the … that I’d written down at the age of … I think I was,
like, 17 or 18 when I wrote that journal out and I still have it back in
Paul: This is a lot of years later bro. I’m in my 40s now so
that’s a long time to be carrying that dream and not pursuing it, you
know. I kind of did for a little while. I was a pastor for a while so
that meant that I did a lot of public speaking. I’d spoke for … in
front of thousands of people that way. But that was the main career
was in speaking.
Anyhow, that was the dream.
Andy: Over the last handful of years, did the dream come up
again? Like you had these experiences at 15 and 17, were there
moments where it came up again in your 20s or early 30s or so?
Paul: Dude, it’s never left.
Paul: It’s never left. So, I’ve written a couple … I’ve
written a book that never made it anywhere expect around my blog.
I think we can call that a blook.
Paul: So, I have that and then I have … I had a blog that I
had going for a while. It was kind of … more of as a hobby. I did a
little bit of AdSense under the sea if I could drum up a little bit of
cash which after four years.
Paul: $40 just piled up in that account. (Laughs) So, it’s
been most for family and friends but nonetheless the feedback was
always real positive as I did that.
So, literally last year at this time right now I was kind of coming up
with the new plans because I kept thinking I’ve got to get out of this
business which was electrical contract. I love the artistic part of it. A
little bit of [inaudible 00:06:14]. I’m really good like that. I literally
designed some of the nicest houses in the area that I live as far as the
electrical goes. Beautiful lighting design, lighting designer and
sound systems and stuff. I’ve really been able to been very privilege
of working with some amazing people in our area who are willing to
spend money because it always cost money to do the job. So, I was
just very privilege to be able to do that type of project – those type
Having said that, I knew that what I wanted to do was something
completely different. I came up with the plan and here was my plan.
I was going to … part of my business is a security monitoring
business. My plan was basic. I was going to build that up, put a lot
of focus on that for the next two to three which is going completely
in a direction I didn’t want to go but I figured I would do that and
then I’d sell it for like a million or two dollars. There’s so much
profit margin, security company that ... and for what it can be sold
for. Each account can be sold for certain amount so I just knew what
my target was. That was my plan.
By the first of January I had my goal setup, I had my targets lined
up, I had people targeted to hire and I was starting to go for it. I had
divided up my company into three different categories and was
moving ahead and then in … some kind of disconcerting. I don’t
want to be graphic about it because it’s not a very pretty experience.
There’s nothing painful but I just started to experience stuff … yeah.
Symptoms that weren’t looking good. I started to Google those
symptoms and it look like I could be dying because that’s what …
Google is such a great doctor, you know, my wife would walk
behind our couch like going upstairs and look over my shoulder. I
was on Skype and see what I was … not Skype but Google. Will see
what I was looking at and all these images and I was just sure I was
going to be dead in a matter of a month and a half and she says,
“Stop doing that. Go see a doctor.”
So, I went to see a real doctor and the real doctor said, “No. There’s
no way you’ve got any of these horrible situations. More likely
you’ve got a kidney stone that is having a hard time coming out of
your kidney and so that would explain what the problem is.” So,
what they wanted to do is just do a quick scope inside my bladder
because they’re afraid that there has been some lesions in there that
had to be dealt with and so they wanted to look inside my bladder so
they did … That was going to be one step in the process. Then the
next was they’re going to … they were going to do a ultrasound of
my … I was very concerned about that because I’ve heard that
passing a kidney stone is the worst and I was not looking forward to
that going … about it.
So, the day of my scoping into my bladder, which, bro, there’s only
one way to get in the bladder and it was kind of … it was kind of an
interesting journey because … it had not been for computer screen
being right next to me it would have been very … it was very
uncomfortable to begin with. But the screen was distracting. It was
kind of … literally as the doctor is pushing a scope up towards the
bladder. It was kind of like a guided tour. He’s like saying, “Okay,
we’re here. Here’s your such and such and there’s your prostate and
there’s … coming up ahead is your sphincter muscle.” It was like,
dude, I’m telling you it was this … it was crazy.
Andy: What a trip.
Paul: And then the scope pushed to the sphincter muscle
into the actual bladder and there was … the whole screen was filled
with a giant tumor. In my mind, Andy, I said I’ve got cancer and at
the same moment my doctor said, “You’ve got cancer.” His was a
professional voice; one that has seen this a thousand times and said
it a hundred times. My voice in my own little head was like a little
kid wanting to crawl and hide in a hole, try to get away from the
Paul: It was very surreal.
At the same time it was fascinating because the tumor was huge but
it look like … it looked like a big coral reef thing. I expected to see
Nemo pop out any minute because it was that big of a deal.
Anyhow, the prospective of life changed very quickly at that point.
It turned out that it was … it’s a malignant tumor; it was … needed
to be operated. That was Tuesday by Friday I was in surgery. It was
removed. We did another surgery six weeks later to check to see it
was all gone. Grateful it was all gone. Seven weeks later they went
in to look again to just perform my next round of treatments and it
had come back with multiple tumors like 14 more tumors with.
Freckles of new red dots everywhere that were ready to sprout. He
burn those off then we went to treatment.
It look like it all cleared up and we were good until this last, like,
four weeks ago, we went in for one more look to see how things are
going and to do a little quick three-week treatment and it turns out
that it come back for a third time. Even then from the time that they
had looked at … found the tumor which was a small one at that
point. It was about the size of … the end of your pinky but
nonetheless still dangerous. From the day that they had found it’s
the next day that come back not only a dot one, they got [inaudible
00:12:33]. They had to remove a second one that had showed up;
just that little short two-week period. Very aggressive tumor.
It kind of put life in perspective. That dream of spending five more
years, three to four years building another company so that I could
go out and my dreams kind of changed because I realize that that
three to four years may not happen. Life wasn’t guaranteed to be
available for me in the next five to ten years. I just said forget it. I
got to change what I’m doing.
For one … because I couldn’t work my … I had a couple employees
and I barely … but I couldn’t survive that way. So eventually I had
to let them go and then I went on, work for three months to kind of
get myself back up on my feet a little bit but then I got hit again and
now I’m off work again for another three months or so. It’s been
quite [inaudible 00:13:48].
But in the process I said that I’ve got to do something different. That
was when I decided that I was going to change the course of my life.
Forget that other deal and go down a new venture where I can
develop the platform or develop a new life of building a new
entrepreneurial dream. The nutshell is right there.
Andy: Wow. Did it all switch in that instant?
Paul: Yeah. To be honest it did. And it wasn’t like … it
wasn’t like one of those instances where you step out in front of a
car, car screeches to a halt, you realize your life could end right
there. We’ve all had those type of close calls especially who were
passengers of the cars that I’m driving – lots of close calls there. It
wasn’t quite like one of those close call incidences. This is really
one of those things where it laid the cards on the table and you
realize that … Dude, I don’t even know if I have next year, to be
Paul: I think I do. I think that I have ways to go but I’m …
I’m not 100% sure anymore. I’m more suspicious that in the next
little while I’ll probably be losing my bladder. I probably know …
I’m pretty sure that’s going to happen because even after the surgery
my doctor flat out said, “Yeah. You got a very high likely that it’s
going to come back.” It’s a nasty cancer. It’s the most aggressive,
most often recurring cancer that is out there that I have my complete
anomaly because I’m too young for cancer, for this type of cancer.
This is like an old man’s cancer. Usually the average age is 73.
Smoker’s cancer, the average person gets it is a smoke … like the 1
percentile bracket. I don’t smoke and I’m not in my 70s. So, it’s
very odd for someone like me who’s lived a relatively clean life to
be going through this type of cancer. I could look around … those
things and they had … I just had to live that lifestyle.
Andy: How does it shift your mindset on a daily basis?
Paul: One thing that makes me realize is that … if anything
is going to happen, I’ve got to take massive action now. I’ve heard
that word massive action so many times it almost seems cliché-ish.
Like a cliché to say that. But there is something about saying that
today is the day that we make a movement. [Inaudible 00:16:59]
who said there’s seven days in a week and some day’s not one of
I have so love that idea because back when I got my … the first
diagnosis, it was such a shock the perspective of life changing the
… the timeline that you and I have just grown up assuming was
always going to be there. The horizon that’s supposed to … the sun
sets when you’re 90s or 80s or 70s.
Paul: … assume is supposed to be out there suddenly is
coming quite close.
The perspective changes in the fact that I … if anything is going to
change, I’ve got to do it today. The truth of the matter is this, bro, is
that that’s not just true for someone who’s been diagnosed with
cancer. Really the truth is that everybody is in that boat because
though I can come to face to face with my mortality that I have a
lifespan that is very … I know it’s defined.
Paul: I just know it is. Whether I lived to be 80 or 90 or
whatever, I just know that … it’s just coming from the set clear
focus that that tombstone has come in the focus for me. That’s true
for everybody. Nobody is guaranteed tomorrow.
Paul: Nobody is guaranteed this afternoon. Nobody is
guaranteed to the end of this podcast.
Paul: It’s just that our lives are fragile.
As much as I … as I would love to make it to 70, as much as I’d
love to make it to my daughter’s wedding, to my son’s weddings
and my … getting into this old years with my wife and seeing her
through Alzheimer because I think that … I’ve got a very sharp
Paul: As much as I want to get to those things, it may or
may not happen. And now that back up just to the career of making
… making it a difference.
One of the things you guys teach at the Foundation is about doing
something important, significant with your life. You guys do that
through finding out what’s the problem out there that you guys need
to solve, right? You encourage your students, your entrepreneurs
that comes through the Foundation. Find the problem, figure out a
way to solve that problem. Really what you’re saying is how do you
bring value to the world? How do you bring value to someone else’s
life, to another business, to a whole industry’s life? How do you
bring that kind of value?
Entrepreneurs got such a great opportunity to do that: to be able to
bring value to this world, to make the world a better place by finding
problems and solving them. Though being electrician was, you
know, you have that … that solves a problem. I’ve solve the ugly
problem. Lighting and sound systems and taking a house that can be
basic into something that’s beautiful. Yeah, I get that. That does
solve a problem. But it’s on a smaller scale.
When you write and when you speak, you know, the impact and far
reach that that has is so much more greater, has so much more
potential because I’ve seen it for myself, people that I’ve … where
I’ve done teaching 20 years ago that are still coming up and telling
me how important that specific teaching was back then or something
that I had written back then. The impact is so much greater. Just like
what you’re doing with the Foundation and with this podcast. The
reach is so much greater and so much more impact than if you were
doing a commodity driven type entrepreneurial journey.
Andy: Yeah. It’s really interesting. Most people choose to
ignore thinking about death and I think there’s so much power in
keeping that at the top of your mind.
Paul: I’d agree with that. I think that there’s … not being
morbid about it.
Paul: But just being realistic about it.
Paul: It’s not so that you start living on a grape because
dude I do not want to live in the grape. I am not ready to crawl up in
a ball and … because I’ve got this hard thing that I have going on,
I’m not going to crawl up in a ball and just wait for death to come.
Paul: I’m going to live my life until I’m in the grave.
Paul: I’m pushing forward. I’m trying to do things that are
… that’s going to make a difference and make an impact.
Regardless of whether my body is going to agree to do it or not, I’m
moving forward and that’s a mindset of saying I don’t care what this
life throws at me.
I remember this great bumper sticker that said “When life gives you
… make chocolate and make them wonder how the heck you did
that.” That’s kind of my attitude. I’ve been giving a bunch of
lemons. I’m not into lemonade bro. I want to make chocolate cake
out of it and make people wonder how [inaudible 00:21:53] did he
pull that off with what he’s got dealing on, going on with this life.
That’s kind of the mindset that I’m developing and trying to have.
Andy: Wow. So when you got the diagnosis, what were the
things that shifted in your life? I know career was one and following
your dreams. Was that the first … at what point did that come? I’m
curious. What else got put into perspective for you? Thank you for
being so open with this. This is awesome.
Paul: Yeah. You’re welcome. I think that one of the things
that made … it would be a couple of things. One of them was
definitely career. My business has had some great difficulties. Every
entrepreneur understands what it’s like to have things go sideways
and you work your tail off to correct them.
A few years ago one of my customers went bankrupt and left me
holding a huge, huge bag of money to try to figure out how to
payoff. I couldn’t have done the same thing. I could have said forget
it, I’m going to go bankrupt. I had children that were watching my
life and knowing that I had … that they had seen me make a
promise to pay a debt and to ignore that I thought would have been a
bad example for them. So, I just put my head down and I work my
Now, as a result of that is that I felt like one of the things that
became a real loss for me was that family time. Really given my
children what they needed in a dad. Really given my wife what she
needed a husband. That perspective changed radically. The hope
that one day I would be able to get to those relationships, it wasn’t
worth it. It wasn’t worth working literally from …
Dude, this is what I did one year. I would get up and go to work at
3:00 in the morning. Work till 8:00 at night, I do that six days a
week and take Sundays off so I could get some rest. Did that for a
year straight because of that bankruptcy that one of my customers
had done which started a huge snowball. The realities is that, dude, I
work … I’ve always worked a lot of hours. My typical work day is
usually out the door by 6:30 and usually home by about 6:00 that
night so that’s … 11 and a half hour a day. That’s just standard.
Paul: That’s standard. That’s just the way it is. That wasn’t
unusual. It’s just the way that I function.
So, yeah, the perspective. One of the other things that changed was
… I got to have tea in the morning with my wife. I’ve got to go out
to the rooms of my son. I’ve got to be around long enough to
embarrass my daughter. Because if I’m not embarrassing her, if I’m
not [inaudible 00:25:12] my wife, [inaudible 00:25:13] important
critical things, then it doesn’t matter anything else that I’m doing.
When I die, I’m not going to count any podcast I’ve done or how
many houses I’ve wired. It’s really going to be that I’m going to be
excited to be able to see my son, my daughter and my wife and you
by my bedside because I know you’ll come. You’ll come. Oh, I’m
here for you. Hey, it’s Andy. I’m here for you and I [inaudible
00:25:42] bro. Thank you.
Paul: That’s just going to matter though honestly, isn’t it?
Andy: Yeah, it is.
Paul: Some of the mind shifts that you just kind of realize
I’ve got to do this differently. I’ve talked to so many people. Dude,
I’ve interviewed over a 130 people in the last four months for Doubt
the Doubts. I think today’s episode a 115 I think. I can’t remember.
112 is today’s episode and then I’ve got it all recorded out through
part of … part of December.
Point is that I’ve talked to so many guys and so many gals that have
talked through their entrepreneurial journey and some of the most
powerful, successful people have said the one thing they want to
make sure they have in place is that great relationship with their
family. Some of those guys and gals just said flat out, “I don’t care
what it takes. I’m going to make sure that that’s number one.”
One lady that I got to interview she’s just … just an absolute
sweetheart. I think three or four times we had to cancel because her
son was sick in the evening and we just kept pushing it up, pushing
it up. It never once had bother me because I knew that that was so
much more important for her to spend time with one of her sons
than it was to spend time with Paul Blais. The value is just … it’s
not even comparable.
Paul: So, yeah. That’s one of the things that definitely
change was that perspective of relationships in family. Not just …
just family but then also friends. Just spending time with really good
friends. When you get busy you totally get this as an entrepreneur.
It’s very easy to get so caught up in the project and the endeavor
that you forget that you got to have your best friend next to you too.
You’ve got to be developing those friendships.
Andy: I struggle with that too. I struggle with losing touch
of what really matters. Why do you think people do that? What do
you think causes them to lose touch?
Paul: Life is loud. Life is so loud. If you get even slightly
behind on your bills, the bill collectors become exceptionally loud
and you do everything you can to try to [inaudible 00:27:59]. If
you’re working a 9:00 to 5:00 job and you’ve got an employer, that
job is loud in your life. It’s always, always, always going to be
something yelling for your attention. If you’re into entertainment or
… just look at the entertainment world, it is so loud. Always telling
us that we’ve got to get into the next movie theater, we got to get
into next … the next sitcom on the TV show, on the TV. Everything
is screaming for attention. The internet is screaming for attention.
Everything is just so loud. I think that’s what the deal is is that it’s
hard to turn those things off and to say, “I need to focus in on what
is critical here.”
I think that’s probably one of the bigger reasons why people get so
distracted from what’s so important is because they just … Also we
end up misplacing our value on things that aren’t as critical. I don’t
remember which podcast I listened to; it might have been even
yours that I was listening to. You tell me if this was your podcast
Paul: … this analogy. A guy was saying … A guess on a
show was saying that if you look at your life in terms of balls,
you’re going to have crystal balls, you have rubber balls and we will
take rubber balls like things that you can drop and they bounce back.
Paul: If you drop a career you can drop that ball and it
bounces right back in your hand, no big deal. You lose a job; it’s
going to bounce back.
But the crystal balls, you take that same ball which could be the
things that are really valuable: your wife, your child, a best friend,
you drop one of those and they don’t bounce back very well. And if
they land hard enough they’re going to shatter and you’re going to
lose something but we treat the rubber balls as though they’re the
most important. We treat the crystal balls as if they’re not quite …
we don’t value those as much. So the guy said, “Make sure you
watch out which ball’s you’re holding.” That’s the thing …
Paul: Very careful about which one of them that you’re
focusing on because I think … I think that comes back to that loud
voice. The boss is yelling you. The [inaudible 00:30:14] are yelling
at you. Everybody is yelling at you for your attention and you got to
decide which ones are the ones you’re going to focus on.
Andy: Beautiful man. So, for the people listening that are
sitting there thinking, oh, I should do this or someday I’ll do this or
after I make enough money, I’ll quit my job or after X then I’ll do
what I want. Yeah, from your experience what do you think would
help them the most to hear?
Paul: There’s a lot of great analogies I’m thinking of right
now. I think that one of the things that’s just most important that if a
person has a dream is not to put it off. It’s time to start thinking
what the end in mind saying. If someone wants to be a poet, if
someone wants to be an artist, if someone wants to be an
entrepreneur, if someone wants to own a company then you got to
think … get that vision we had or what it is [inaudible 00:31:22] you
truly want to do.
And then don’t just make it this imaginary, kind of wispy thing.
Really define it. Define exactly what that means. If it’s to be an artist
then say, “I want to be an artist as …” and they can define that and
say, “I want to be an artist that paints with water colors and I want
specifically do landscapes. Define it that way. Get it all the way
down. Or if it’s a business owner, I want to launch a business and I
want to pour this business, I want to be able to support myself to the
point where I only have to work four days a week and then I get a
three day weekend every week. Define it exactly what you want it to
be like, look like, and then work your way backwards from there.
That’s basic 101. That’s basic 101.
But having said that, part of it is finding the thing that rocks your
world. A friend of mine, Scott, had a son that was five years old and
was thinking through … or they were out shopping and the son
found a superman cape. He start to beg his dad, “Can I have the
superman cape please? Can I please?” And so his dad, Scott, said
sure. He gives this cape, they get in the car, puts the cape on his
son’s … [inaudible 00:32:52] neck and they’re driving home and the
dad is looking in the rear view mirror and he keeps seeing his son
drawing his hands out in front him, to the left and to the right and to
the front of them and you can hear him mumbling. “First, I’m going
to go over the house and then I’m going to go this way.” He’s just
like that. They’re just enjoying his superman cape.
Paul: They get home, they open the door, he runs to the
backyard and for, like, the next ten minutes his son is running
around, jumping off the ground, coming back down, climbing upon
the picnic table, running to the end of it, launching himself in the air
only to land again. He’s getting more and more frustrated and finally
he gets really ticked off and he comes back in the house, no longer
is the cape around his neck but it’s clenched in his little angry fist.
As he walks to the house with the cape dragging behind, [inaudible
00:33:34] his dad says, “This stupid cape doesn’t work.” And he
throws it on the ground, runs to his room and crying.
The issue was that … the reason he couldn’t fly is because that
wasn’t his cape; that was Superman’s cape. Superman flies with that
cape not Scott’s son. We’re going to find that cape that makes us fly
and every one of us has a cape that makes us fly. Every one of us
has something where we could be able to get off the ground and get
going but we can’t do it with someone else’s cape. We’re never
going to fly trying to put on someone else’s cape to do what … to
get to our dreams.
So, one of the things I think would be really, really a great way to
start that journey is if you’re not sure you just have an inkling of
what you want to do. Give a journal and write for one month an
emotional journal what things piss you off, what things excite you,
what things make you happy, what things make you laugh to the
point of tears and keep a track of those things.
When you started to see what those different emotional responses
are to life circumstances, that’s where you start figure out what
you’re passions are or what you loved … for some work that you
did and it was a big checking, that really [inaudible 00:34:54],
you’re going to get excited about how you can turn that into
[inaudible 00:34:59]. Keeping that emotional burning will start to
define for a person what they’re wired for, what they’re made for.
And it starts to define what they’re [inaudible 00:35:12] looks likes.
Grab their cape and be able to take off and fly the way that they’re
supposed to fly. So that would be kind of nutshell.
Couple of things that I think would be great: Think with an end in
mind and if you’re not sure what that end looks like, keep a journal
for a month and just figure out what it is that makes you excited and
happy and sad.
Andy: That was so beautifully articulated. I was thinking
about going to strategies and tactics in this interview but I don’t
even want to. I think if people just walk away with that one concept
of just stop waiting. I think this is worth the entire thing then.
Paul: Yeah, it’s time to go. Time to jump.
Andy: Man, thank you. Any last words before I tell people
where to find you and stuff at? Any last thoughts?
Paul: I think it’s really important for people to know that
they are loved by you and me. (Laughs)
Paul: We love our audiences. You know what I mean?
Paul: It’s like such a pleasure to be able to talk to people;
getting their ears and this is such a great medium. I am just so in
love with my listeners, so in love with being able to get to people
and make a difference to people’s lives. Yeah. I think parting words,
parting thought would be lots of love. Lots of love to everybody.
Andy: Beautiful Paul. If people are listening and they want
to get in touch with you, they want to email you, they want to reach
out to you or listen to the podcast, where do they do that? What’s
the best way?
Paul: Yeah. It’s Doubts the Doubts and so … that’s also the
domain name. So, it’s doubtthedoubts.com. On there there’s a
contact sheet. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org. People can
email me there. They can find each one on the podcast on there.
They can also go on to iTunes and it is there on iTunes and they
could be able to scroll down and find your podcast with Andy and
Dane and I can’t see what … Again, I don’t remember which
podcast number it was but it’s on there. One of our best interviews,
one of our best …
Andy: Is it really?
Paul: Oh, totally. So many people love that interview. I
mean I had so many people download. That’s one of our top rated
downloads. You guys rock, seriously.
Andy: Beautiful. Well, you brought it out of us because not
all can go that well. Thank you.
Paul: It was good times. That was very good times.
Andy: Oh, awesome. Paul, thank you so much for coming
on today and sharing your story. It’s a different approach than we’ve
ever taken. I think it’s going to go really well for the audience.
Paul: Well, thanks for having me. Lots of love to you, bro.
Andy: Lots of love to you too man.
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